For readers, if you can’t retrieve http://www.aefi.org.au/Support a national worker.htm to see proof of bribery, please click

http://www.aefi.org.au/ and click at ‘support a national worker’ in the left side of the website. Hurry before they close it down

If you need money for free and don’t want to work, you can call them and pretend to be a worker. Just kidding!!

Syukri

You are so emotional, spiteful and angry. But surely I can’t expect anything more from a christian whose faith is so uncertain and without any focus. Dah tak ada modal lainkan? Tentulah mencarut dan merapu sahaja. Sepanjang surat anda penuh dengan caci maki. Tapi tak hairan, kerana injured dog bark loudest. Kesiaaan..

Please be assured that as a Muslim I won’t resort to desperate and cheap move to discredit my opponent like saying other people ‘ bodoh’ like you. Instead being angry, I pity you a lot and grateful that I did not do that. Alhamdulillah. In fact, your anctic remind me melancholic mentally ill people wandering in the street devouring rubbish cursing passerby and laughing of loud. See the similarities?

Good new for muslims and truth seekers. Seems that I don’t have to explain the futility of Christianity anymore because Hamzah Al Murtad show it all. Thank you Hamzah, thank you for making my job easier .:)

So you embraced Christianity long time ago? Thank goodness because who needs you as Muslim

Actually, who cares if all the whole world embracing Christianity if they are tin kosong like you, bising tapi tak ada isi? I’ll let you get the quantity that you desperately need. For your info, we Muslims don’t use money to bribe people like Christian do. We don’t use dirty money ( usury, gambling etc ) from Jews because we don’t have to. People THEMSELVES coming to Islam.

The Observer says:“..A year ago they feared their religion would be tarred by the atrocities that left over 3,000 dead in the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington. But Muslims across Britain are now crediting an ‘11 September factor’ for the upsurge of interest in their religion.

From Islamic bookshops and university comparative religion courses to the dusty corridors of Whitehall, non-Muslims are rushing to find out more about the beliefs of Islam and the life of the Prophet Mohammed.

Sales of the Muslim holy book, the Koran, have gone through the roof. Penguin, the publishers of the best-known English-language translation of the Koran, registered a 15-fold increase in the three months following 11 September and sales have held up well since. “
http://www.therevival.co.uk/wp-site/276

This is the fulfilment of Allah’s word in The Holy Quran:

61:8 They aim to extinguish God’s light with their utterances: [9] but God has willed to spread His light in all its fullness, however hateful this may be to all who deny the truth

We don’t afford to send missionaries and evangelist because Muslims are busy fending ourself againsnt opression from ‘super power’ who are afraid of us. These kuffar even afraid of a peice of cloth ( hijab of Muslimah ).Kalau tak, takkan Yahudi bekerjasama dengan Kristian. This desperate pact and cunning evangelization has been predicted in The Holy Quran and accurately happened:

2:120 For, never will the Jews be pleased with thee. nor yet the Christians, unless thou follow their own creeds. Say: “Behold, God’s guidance is the only true guidance.” And, indeed, if thou shouldst follow their errant views after all the knowledge that has come unto thee. thou wouldst have none to protect thee from God, and none to bring thee succour.

With regard to Jews-Christian desperate alliance against Islam, Jerusalem Post says: The fifth annual Jerusalem Summit Asia, which was held in a Jerusalem hotel, brought together members of parliament from the Knesset’s Christian Allies Caucus, conservative Israeli academics and thinkers, and 150 political and religious leaders from the Philippines, India, Japan, China and Taiwan.

Again it says:”Jerusalem Summit V has brought Asian leaders and politicians to Israel in order to reinforce their commitment to the security of the State of Israel and the well being of its people during our 60th anniversary,” said caucus director Josh Reinstein.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1215331047063&pagename=JPArticle/ShowFull

The Holy Quran also precisely predicted about disbelievers usage of money ( bribery ) to achieve their fruitless agenda.

8:36 The Unbelievers spend their wealth to hinder (man) from the path of Allah, and so will they continue to spend; but in the end they will have (only) regrets and sighs; at length they will be overcome: and the Unbelievers will be gathered together to Hell;-

Dear readers, below are the proof that Christians giving money ( bribe ) to poor people to convert to christianity under the banner ‘ REACHING ASIA THROUGH NATIONAL WORKER’.
http://www.aefi.org.au/Support a national worker.htm

to end, I would like to share 2000 study by the Swedish-based World Values Survey shows nearly half — or more — don’t regularly attend church in several Western European countries. percentage of people who “never” or “practically never” attend church in 14 democracies:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2005-08-10-europe-religion-cover_x.htm

More info about Christianity decline in Europe
http://www.albertmohler.com/commentary_read.php?cdate=2005-08-18
More info about Christianity decline in America
http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/family/981

Hamzah, you are fighting a losing battle. Christians have been given chance to rule this world before ( through military and economic imperialism ) but look what they have done today? global misery, poverty and ignorance.

Therefore, ISLAM IS THE FUTURE OF THIS WORLD

110:1 When comes the Help of Allah, and Victory,
110:2 And thou dost see the people enter Allah’s Religion in crowds,
110:3 Celebrate the praises of thy Lord, and pray for His Forgiveness: For He is Oft-Returning (in Grace and Mercy).

Allahu Akbar, Allah is great

Syukri

This is a reply to your delusional claims on June 29, above!

I am not a ‘new believer’ in the true Gospel of Christ Jesus / Sayidina Isa al-masih!

I have come to faith in Jesus the Lord, more than 25 years ago…So, your insinuation of being a ‘new broom’ is not just delusional nonsense, but just stupid and daft…plain ‘bodoh’.

And uncalled for, of course.

I came to embrace the true Light of the World – the Lord Jesus, after studying the Quran and the Bible for many years.

When I discovered that the Quran and the Sunna of Muhammad is incomplete, and really incompetent to answer the sincere questions of thinking and rational people!

But the real answers are to be found in the Gospel of Jesus Christ, all the time.

Wasalaam, Hamzah.

You must be more than a little blind to misrepresent my words, as USUAL!

You have purposely ignored my post of syaikh Ahmad al Qataani’s complaints of ARAB Muslims leaving Islam from the Arab world, NOT immigrant woirkers from Philippines, etc as you facetiously assret, my friend!

Just in case you cannot find it, here it is again for everyones benefit:

About the mass exodus opf muslims leaving islam in Africa, this was what Ahmad al-Qataani said:

“There are now 1.5 million churches whose congregations account for 46 million people. In every hour, 667 Muslims convert to Christianity. Everyday, 16,000 Muslims convert to Christianity. Ever year, 6 million Muslims convert to Christianity
These numbers are very large indeed �..”

Read MORE about the hemorrage islam is experiencing today around the world, here:

http://www.formermuslims.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2133&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

Then, don’;t forget, the Muslims who leave their muslim homelands for FRANCE, also leave Islam :

10,000 Frech Muslims converted to Christianity in last years,

http://alonzo-95.skyblog.com/

For English Translation : http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewt … 560#251560

And of course, those Muslims who have LEFT Islam in the United Kingdom:

200,000 UK Muslims Left Islam

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1470584,00.html

And, then of course, Iranian muslims have been abandoning islam for a while already:

50,000 Iranian Muslims have embraced Christianity in Iran in last 2 years

http://www.iam-online.net/Press_release_PDFs/IAMTVrelease_FINAL.doc (Read-Only

So, you see, your claims to the contrary are all now debunked and are all proven to be false and nothing more than hot air, Syukri and Muhamad!

Wassalaam, Hamzah.

Furthermore, your claim about conversions to islam in Korea are also false and misleading!

The increase in Muslims there, stems from those Immigrants from foreign countries – Bangladesh, Pakistan, Malaysia etc, And NOT that Islam is so attractive to the Koreans -who know MUCH BETTER than to convert into a religion of TYRANNY such as Islam, par excellence..:-))

Wasalaam, Hamzah.

I’d like to address Syukri & Hamzah. It’s great that you guys are engaging so fervently.

Might i suggest that the both of you exchange each others’ email and take your discussion offline from this entry?

It seems that the current discussion has got nothing to do with the subject matter of the post: “What is Love?”

It’s probably best for everyone.

Thanks guys! Appreciate it. : )

God bless & Shalom,
Emmanuel

Now your desperation forces you to malign me as someone knowing nothing about Christianity…HAHAHAHAHAHAA!! What a joke, LOLLLing!

So you suppose that you as a missionary muslim, attacking and bashing Christiantiy at every opportunity, know THE AUTHENTIC CHRISTIANITY Or the true Gospel??!! LOL!

You dupe yourself, ya Syukri, for buying into typical islamist anti-Christian / Bible / Gospel POLEMICS and calling THAT real Christianity..!

The same goes for Muhammad who is another Christian-bashing polemicist, but also shown to be bankrupt when he cannot respond intelligently at all to my straightforward, open question!

You TWO will do well to get a proper education of the Bible and real Christianity by reading and studying scholarly books about the Bible and reading the Bible itself, instead of drinking from the poisoned wells of the likes of Deedat, Zakir Naik and other misled Christian-bashers!

Also, go read the true stories of ex-Muslims who have embraced the TRUE Gospel like those I already posted PLUS this one below – the son of an Arab terrorist leader :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roC2dHJiVyo

He is real, flesh and blood EX-Muslim, and moreso – the son of islamist terrorist leader and founder of that organisation! He is not afraid to show his true face on Youtube.

Wake up, ya Syukri and Muhammad, dawagandists! BEFORE it is too late and you both be thrown into eternal HELL-Fire.

Wassallaam Bro.Hamzah.

Hi there Hamzah. If your intention of calling me names to provoke me, so that I will be emotional, and reply to you emotionally, then we distracted from our main topic, please forget it. I won’t buy your trick. Anyway, I’m thoroughly entertained by your desperate effort to discredit us by calling names and hurling abuse to Islam. Saya tak marah. Teruskan. It reminds me a mischievous boy in my primary classroom who like to jeer and make fun of other people to get attention and at the end got fine well deserved whack from the teacher. I think the readers also can see the real character of Christians.

1. My comment about Christian colonialist imperialist Alfonse and his vicious atrocities to Malay Muslim is not devoid of facts. Wikipedia ( your favourite reference ) say about him: He ordered the slaughter of all the Muslim population in an effort to reduce religious divergence hoping that it would force Hindus and Muslims to convert to Christianity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afonso_de_Albuquerque

For the person who intended to steal the body of Prophet Muhammad, and hold it for ransom until all Muslim had left the Holy Land, his political downfall is well deserved. Wikipedia said: Albuquerque’s career had a painful and ignominious close. He had several enemies at the Portuguese court who lost no opportunity of stirring up the jealousy of King Manuel against him, and his own injudicious and arbitrary conduct on several occasions served their end only too well. On his return from Ormuz, at the entrance of the harbour of Goa, he met a vessel from Europe bearing dispatches announcing that he was superseded by his personal enemy Lopo Soares de Albergaria. The blow was too much for him and he died at sea on December 16, 1515 ( same reference above ). Allah is great!

2. Christianity is NOT growing fast in those countries that you stated. Where do you get those facts or you just dreaming? Numbers of Christians among young Korean decreases by 5% per year
http://www.omf.org/omf/uk/asia/countries_omf_centres/korea/south_korea_profile

In fact, Islam is growing in Korea ( partly helped by Malaysian government ; Malay Muslim ) Alhamdulilah..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Korea

3.I’ve never said that Christianity grow only with the help of colonialist ( your another sign of delusion ). The fact that Christianity grow with the force, atrocities and manipulation is undisputable.
http://www.burningcross.net/crusades/christian-missionary-atrocities.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_persecution_by_Christians

4. Yes, Islam is growing in the west mostly by immigration, and by the will of Allah, by child reproduction, ( something that desperately needed by Singapore but they just can’t. Seem that LKY can control everything, but he can’t force people to make more babies ) but ALSO by conversions. TIMES Onlines say: MORE than 14,000 white Britons have converted to Islam after becoming disillusioned with western values, according to the first authoritative study of the phenomenon.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1026534.ece

New York Times says: Clearly, only a minuscule percentage of converts turn to active radicalism, and there are many reasons for converting: an admiration of Islamic texts and practices; a desire by women to remove themselves from what they perceive as the aggressive sexualization of Western life; the countercultural rebellion of the younger generation against their parents’ liberalism; and a sense of outrage at Western foreign policy in places like Iraq and Lebanon.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/17/world/europe/17iht-converts.2514594.html

With regard to westerner conversion to Islam, Ibrahim Raymon said: A common reason cited is that, unlike Christianity, which can be heavy on theology, Islam is relatively simple and straightforward. So while Christianity revolves around metaphysical concepts such as the Trinity, Christology, the nature of salvation, grace, free-will vs election, and the futility of the law, Islam, in black and white terms, commands its adherents to do this and not do that. In fact, the Arabic word “Sharia,” that comprehensive body of laws Muslims must follow, literally means the “way” — as in the way to paradise.
http://victorhanson.com/articles/ibrahim091906.html

more on Islam by Western perspective:
http://www.nikk.uio.no/?module=Articles;action=Article.publicShow;ID=600

4. The growing Christian in the Middle East and other part of this globe is not by sincere conversion! They are mostly workers from Philippines and poor countries like Nepal! How deceptive. Using your phrase, if Christian countries are so great, why do Christians from 3rd countries LEAVE their Christian homeland for the much greener pasture of Dubai, Kuwait, Bahrain, Malaysia etc?

5.What’s wrong having FOUR wives? What about personalities in Bible who practiced polygamy? Or is that because it’s preferable to berzina to various women like what happen in Christian society now? Don’t worry, you will be saved by your salvation, right? Or Christian can just amend any law to their fancy like below:

“On February 14, 1650, the parliament at Nürnberg decreed that, because so many men were killed during the Thirty Years’ War, the churches for the following ten years could not admit any man under the age of 60 into a monastery. Priests and ministers not bound by any monastery were allowed to marry. Lastly, the decree stated that every man was allowed to marry up to TEN women. The men were admonished to behave honorably, provide for their wives properly, and prevent animosity among them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygamy

Hilarious!!

Do you really want to know why so many people convert to Christianity? It because all the deception and manipulation like giving money, taking orphan and collaborating with Jesus killer ( Jew of Israel )!!!
http://www.inminds.co.uk/occ.html
http://www.inminds.co.uk/tsunami.html
http://www.inminds.co.uk/occ-articles.html

Israel reaches out to evangelical Christians in Asia. A desperate coalition between two archenemy against raising emerging Islam.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1215331047063&pagename=JPArticle/ShowFull

For our info, priest giving money is NOT a bogus story as claimed by Emmanuel.
http://www.aefi.org.au/Support a national worker.htm

Hamzah, you are so optimistic about your new faith, ( biasalah, new broom ) but US: Evangelicals pessimistic about Christianity’s Future
http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/family/981
http://www.christiantoday.com/article/us.evangelicals.pessimistic.about.christianitys.future/23521.htm

So Hamzah, what do you say?

Syukri